The key is to just about other money dials than the two main ones that business owners tend to focus on. One of my students got him lane, he was a pastor, and so he wanted to scale his income,. So he wrote a book, he wrote ane book on how to preach better sermons. And that turned into a top chane thing. But he wasn't able to really scale his business. He was coaching a lot of pastors, and that's what he stumbled into, on line coursesd  and he started to follow my stuff as well.

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