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Episode 147: Professor Ruth DeFries on lessons from the natural world on how to deal with environmental crises.

The Sustainability Agenda

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The Big Ratchet - The Story of Humanity's Ingenuity

In one of your earlier books, the big ratchet, a very interesting on what a level. It's the story of humanity's ingenuity, as it were, dealing with all kinds of crises. And i guess continuing story. Does not mean that we'll always be able to solve every problem that we create. Climate change iss a primary example of that. But how much is a function of whether humanity, global society, can get its act together to reduce greenhouse gases?

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