The War in Ukraine and NATO

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Ukraine has wanted to be part of NATO for a long time, even before this war started. Without nuclear weapons, they feel like they've had no deterrent from Russia. For Ukraine, the kind of joint protection of this massive alliance is all that will really fend Putin off and Russia off - whoever controls Russia. We understand that while the war is ongoing, we can't become a member of NATO. However, we need to be sure that after the war, we will become a member. That's the signal we want to get"

President Biden and other world leaders say it’s too dangerous to admit Ukraine into NATO while it’s at war with Russia. But, to the dismay of allies, the US will send cluster bombs to the front.

This episode was produced by Avishay Artsy, edited by Matt Collette, fact-checked by Laura Bullard with help from Amanda Lewellyn and Hady Mawajdeh, engineered by Patrick Boyd, and hosted by Noel King.

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