Janette Esmaiell: I think we're making progress. This is really a kind of golden era for a genuine kind of scientifically respectable naturalistic view of the human being. Is it seeping out into the wider world? Funny enough I think it's probably seeping out in the public more quickly than it is into philosophy. Which is still rooted in very traditional ways of thinking of the humanBeing and thinking of enchantment in a way that's anti-scientific.

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