The interview is skewed anyway. There's no naturalistic interview that's like, you're not a fly on the wall. Many of us doing whatever our level of charisma is, we're there to distort it and talk about it because it's not normal to be interviewed. I think more people would look like me if we were to take this continuum and kind of put dots where all the researchers are," he says.

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