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Launch of the Asia Power Index 2023

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A Briefing With the Five Eyes Intelligence Community

There have been a number of fairly surreal moments, I'd say, in my career. The first experience of briefing the White House was with the Trump administration and we were sort of descending with rather bad news for them. Then there's a certain sort of indignation that you get from those that aren't included in the index. So as angry as some countries might be when they've got a bad performance, I think worse than that is just not being included.

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