I'm Going to Take From the Experts, You Know?

The first one I was in Austin. And then there was another one in Portland, my partner at crowd favorite. James Archer, who was part of 40 at the time, he was already in the bureau and that's how we got introduced. Kareem: The current climate that agency owners are facing right now is such an interesting combination of like a K-shaped recovery within the COVID space. You can glean over little tidbits that you can implement into your world or, and work for you. It doesn't have to work for everybody.