Lucas: What were you all using in terms of more advanced tooling or was there any anything special back then? And I sort of related Lucas asked, like, would use basil for your projects or rather have make files or similar in the case of linson builds. There's also pants. Benji Weinberger has talked a lot about it. We've probably seen that XKCD where there's people like fake sword fighting on a chair,. You can go grab a coffee and when he got back, it's not to have it hasn't thought a little bit.