I think there's so much to be learned from asking this kind of meta question of things like astrology, which is not, does astrology work? But why does everyone like astrology? That's a very important question. And if you can't see what's valuable in astrology, then you are missing something. It may not be with astrologist's claim, but there's something there. Okay, it's also somewhat in tension with a lot of early rationalist writing, they basically use religion. I think a special Christianity kind of the go-to example of wrong thinking and like dogmatic thinking.

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