The Trinity and the Fatherhood

The fatherhood and the sonship of the first and second persons of the Trinity are eternal and not contingent on the in creation historical events of the incarnation. Gerald: Is it fair to say that to put a point on what you're saying, you might describe the eternal relationship as perhaps in more generic terms of parent and child or we've already been using the language of the gotten and not be gotten? Amy: I want to push back a little bit because I want to say that the father is the father of the word.