The Night Is Always Dark as Before the Dawn

If you were to sort of speculate one possible outcome, where do you see this going in the United States? "I think we're getting to that stage now where...we're reaching a precipice from which we will pull back," he says. He thinks there are some people out there who are just so far down the progressive rabbit hole they don't want to even engage in civil discourse anymore. And I always love it when they kind of loveit when they attack the church, right?"

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