The production version of the cruise origin is very different. Some notable changes than the prototype that we all saw in January 2020. It seems to me, and again, we should really probably have someone from Cruise On or GM or whoever to kind of confirm these impressions because it was sort of quick. And then aren't they okay, but they're also like scaling to Phoenix, but that's not what the origins yet? Is that right?
Ed, Kirsten and Alex recently attended the South By Southwest festival, and though the event itself is recovering nicely from the pandemic, the tech sector presence is remarkably dialed back. This is especially noticeable in mobility tech, where the almost nonexistent presence of big future-focused vehicle and technology plays reflects broader challenges in the sector. The gang breaks down some of these issues and the possible roads ahead in another classic discussion episode.