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160. Reckoning with Marriage — A Conversation with Rachel Rueckert

Faith Matters

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The Importance of Judgment

"There is still something really beautiful about that struggle. And I learn and grow from that too," she says. "I understand the feeling of having a gut reaction that totally makes sense ... It's just it's just the thing that you that you are." Her mother Bernay Brown calls this chandelier pain, no choice but to react because it hurts so much.

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