I was intrigued that in the bees use the bees and then you use the penguin. I know from as a young child you became very interested in the natural world. Do you see in the animal world or the non-human world, a very useful device when you're writing these novels about humans, the human condition? Well, of course they are useful, but the reason why I have so many animals in the books is not because I decided that it's useful to have animals. It's just because all my pets had very tragic destinies."

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