Rethinking Legal Education and the Hot Dog Debate

What does it take to modernize a 100-year-old legal institution and prepare lawyers for the AI era? In this episode, Jen Leonard and Bridget McCormack sit down with Jae Um (Lumio) and Ilona Logvinova (Cleary Gottlieb) to explore how legal organizations move from AI experiments to real impact. From acquisitions and change management to digital agents and legal education reform, this conversation breaks down what actually drives innovation in law.

We cover:

• Practical AI workflows and tools in legal practice
• Culture, incentives, and strategy in firm innovation
• Inorganic vs. organic growth (acquisitions and beyond)
• Digital agents and the future of early-career legal work
• How law schools must evolve for AI-native practice

Episode Highlights:

02:15 AI Aha! Moments

10:39 Inorganic Growth & Innovation Strategy

32:50 Law Schools & Learning in the AI Era

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