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648. Roxane Gay

Otherppl with Brad Listi

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The Cost of Sacrificing

"I think there's going to come a time if we get serious about trying to address the systemic inequality that underlies so much of the systemic racism where the rubber is going to meet the road," he says. "And so they're going to have to be real conversations and real moments of truth."

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