The Heart of Julius Caesar

Brian Loury: It's really fascinating to think about because when we, when I read about historical figures, and you know, I don't think of him as that different from me. What does it mean to be a self in that time and place? And here's the thing, it's hard to even inhabit to even imagine in a clear way what it would be. "I love to think about that," he says. 'What if humans are really like, yeah, yeah, exactly'