Running ads but not seeing results? It might not be your targeting, budget, or creative…it’s your messaging.
Daniel sits down with Ashley Brock, founder of Paid Ads Academy, to break down her Rainmaker Messaging Framework: a repeatable system she’s used to spend over $200M on ads and grow her business to nearly eight figures in under three years.
Ashley explains why most marketers skip messaging and jump straight to ads, and how that shortcut leads to wasted spend and stalled growth. They walk through each element of the Rainmaker framework with real-world examples you can apply immediately.
You’ll also learn:
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Why ads fail when they speak to the solution too early
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How to instantly clarify who your message is for
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The small wording shifts that make ads feel personal
Whether you’re running paid media, building a personal brand, or refining your company’s positioning, this episode will change how you think about messaging.
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