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Hayden: Is DeFi kind of has it peaked? Are there any big innovations left? Just zoom out and tell me about the space because Uniswap has been one of the forefather protocols, I would say this entire DeFi movement. So what do you see right now? What is the future for DeFi? Hayden: There's definitely like cool interesting, you know, complex financial primitives. But we're still learning how to scale blockchains. We're still like learning how to make like AMMs have only been around for fiveish years as a technology. They're just like very new. And so we're just trying to keep improving until it becomes more useful
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