I sat down with philosopher and author Peter Boghossian to wrestle with America’s deepening fracture. Why are so many people cheering political violence, and what—if anything—can pull us back? Ideological capture throughout the education system has broken our engines of knowledge production, turning them into “indoctrination mills” and teaching young Americans to see opponents as existential threats. Is reform even possible at this point? Peter makes the case for burning it all down—or, more accurately, for making these institutions pay the cost of their vices and watching them collapse under their own weight.

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Outline:

[0:00] Charlie Kirk’s murder revealed a deep divide

[5:11] Can we reform away political bias on campus?

[15:01] Am I a hypocrite with my own son?

[22:13] TikTok, disinformation, and echo chambers

[32:09] Should government restrict vices?

[39:41] What are do “left” and “right” mean in 2025?

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