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DO 156 - Dark Optimism, Lean Logic, and Surviving the Future with Shaun Chamberlin and Jason

Doomer Optimism

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The Complexity of Food Systems and Agriculture

I would certainly say that when people say that industrial agriculture is more efficient, usually what their meaning is labor efficiency. There's no doubt that switched back to agro ecology would mean would be more labor intensive meeting you need a lot more farmers. I think it's too limiting on a conversation it's not holistic enough because you have to look into again you're not just looking at energy or labor or climate emissions and so like all of these kind of things to account for the trade offs in different contexts.

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