How to Find Solace in Dark Times?

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Yasha: I want to end our conversation by talking about your wonderful new book on consolation, which did, in fact, accomplish the feat rare among books of consoling me. The project began yasha because i was astonished by how moved and affected i was by religious language, particularly the psons. Andm not a believer, but i began to puzzle out why it is in a secular society we have this kind of religious unconscious that seems to betriggered. It's just what ive found consoling writing, and i hope others will, is the deep continuity of human experience.

Michael Ignatieff, a renowned author and academic, is the former Leader of Canada’s Liberal Party. While Ignatieff was serving as Rector of Central European University, the university was pushed out of Budapest by the Hungarian government.

In this week’s conversation, Michael Ignatieff and Yascha Mounk discuss the rise of illiberal conservatism, the pitfalls of liberalism, and how to find consolation in trying times.

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