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The Subversive Thinker
Magori: I didn't realize how cringe these people were until you started engaging with them. Machiavelli is another one i would say, i'm answering your question. Ryght and the prince saiso, very hard headed. Just get back to reality. That's a two by four of nature beating you upside the head. And locke is going to say the same thing, but more more nicely,. But again, those are authors who think ours deeply subversive in our time.