Kurts: martin's emphasis on human exchanges reminds me of conversations we've had with venessa bonds, you know, you have more influence than you think. He talked about common senses, really about being able to put yourselves in other people's shoes and having that empathy. Kurt: I love this idea of that touch, that piece jumbarg talked about ina, the best thing you cal do for your kids is giving them a hug. And it goes back o just the conversation we just had with andre belk olson, talking about idea of getting out there for business.

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