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Chris Ryan and the Young Turks is a really good show. It's exploring some of the topics in his new book, "A Man Walks On A Wire" You can go to youtube.com slash the point or you can just do a search for Chris Ryan and The Young Turks. And also on Twitter, I'm at Chris Ryan PhD and always interested to hear from listeners. Stephen O STVEN O H 88: C U L T U R E S H L O C K: Culture schlock. That's your blog too.