I don't think greatness is about accolades or winning as much as it is about how you decide to show up. I really like that question things aren't as solid as we believe into me and also to most things we decide to define so what I think is great doesn't have to also be what you think is great. For me it really is just about how you decision to show up did you show up as the greatest version of you? It's personal greatness is something that I think is very very personal, he says.

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