How to Slow Down and Take a Beat

Lale Aricoglu: What advice would you give to listeners who find themselves needing to slow down and take a beat? Rachel Harris: I hope that people can step away from like the shame of what they can't do in terms of taking care of themselves. Next week we have two phenomenal climbers. Jen Pieden a BAFTA nominated film director who makes documentaries about both mountaineering and Everest. And professional rock climber Satcha de Julian the first woman to climb over 30 of the world's most treacherous ascents.