Are we living in a moment now where there are dueling fog models on both sides of the equation? You know, like you can equip someone in this book to try and use a behavioral model to detail themselves from Instagram. And Instagram has used another behavioral model to try and keep people on Instagram. I mean, when people say, Oh, I'm addicted to my mobile phone or why are people addicted to the mobile phone? I really don't like that framing. So it's better if we talk about what our unhealthy uses are problematic uses of specific things.

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