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#005 Joe Hertler: Tapping Into Creative Genius & Pursuing Joy Through Creativity

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How Did That Team Come Together?

i was just a local promoter at the time we were starting to book shows, i didn't know ow to ask for money. kevet kavenmir business manager's been cont up like a mentor to me over the years and has helped out in some capacity before,. until recently becoming our actual business manager. You just are not going to get an agent if yo're not moving tickets already. Like your value as a band is dependent on mostly how many tickets you sell. If you're getting good streams, that side of things is in order.

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