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The Anti-Institutionalist and the Santos
"I want to rebuild from the ground up," Santos says. "What I want to do is I want to get in charge and then actually use the maximum amount of power that I can." The anti-institutionalist would call him American Caesar or FDR, whatever version you want. But pre-FDR and post-FDR are very different federal government.
Nadia joins Erik, Dan and Antonio to debate the different movements in tech and determine what they should be doing to achieve the impact they want to have. Nadia is a tech researcher (nadia.xyz.) and the author of Working in Public: The Making and Maintenance of Open Source Software. Moment of Zen is part of the Turpentine podcast network. To learn more: Turpentine.co
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TIMESTAMPS:
(00:00) Episode Preview
(01:03) New Podcast recommendation: In The Arena
(01:28) Why it’s important to break down the elite camps and their worldviews
(02:51) Elite bracket breakdown
(10:00) Technooptimism, AI, and regulation
(12:08) Davos mindset versus revolutionaries
(13:00) Why doesn’t tech support the arts?
(15:00) Sponsor: Secureframe
(17:00) Tech needs to tell a better story
(21:42) Where does Elon fit into this framework?
(23:13) Institutionalists vs anti-institutionalists (Elon, Sachs, Sam Altman, Thiel, Vijaya)
(35:00) How does the tech worldview enter politics and public stewardship successfully?
(39:00) Is Twitter an institution?
(42:00) Antonio’s depressing statement
(48:30) How the desire for high status in a digital world has affected local philanthropy
(55:44) Who are the most high status people in the world? High status education?
(01:04:00) Building parallel institutions
(01:08:00) Nadia discusses her article about GitHub
(01:15:00) What do American intellectuals get? Experts? Substackers?
(01:17:00) Idea machines
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