I cast a vision for where we needed to be in the next five years. And then I looked at our various how to get there and realize it was going to take 83,000 individual customers or 250 corporate customers. It literally took being in business with him for five years before we did a single interview. He has an amazing ability to share profoundly big ideas in such simple ways. So if I could only pick one person to have a conversation with next year, it'd be him.

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