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Can AI Ever Be Truly Conscious? Johannes Niederhauser and Sean McFadden

Dr. John Vervaeke

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The Limitations of Autopoise

E-cocks: I see the limitation is if it's a technical system, the technical systems build according to certain technical rules. Then I see that like the capability of self transcendence this capability would be still dependent on us. But I feel like just like we can as humans, we are, you know, they say we're all children of God,. We don't at some point liberate ourselves from our dependence in the sense of our need for our environment for our oxygen whatever. So I'm supposing that you're allowing me that the machines have all of those dimensions and their interdependence which is what for e cocks I argues for.

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