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135. No Substitute For Nature with Zac Goldsmith

Outrage + Optimism: The Climate Podcast

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We're Going to Do a Deep Dive Into Food

i'm extremely excited that next year we're going to, can you say, a deep dive into food. i remember where in the pain, from way down in the bottom of my stomach went,. Do you remember? That was arry very s busyy. It really landed with me for sure. But on the placi am so much energy and excitement from so many different people. In a way, i think it's all falling apart just at the same time as it's all coming together. You know, time for us take stock. Well, we have certainly enjoyed are doing this poor cost for another year.

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