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Our Big Dumb Mouth
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How Do You Mean to Bring Up Any of 10 Bucks for Me?
"I don't think anybody really is getting, believes that they're getting paid what they're worth when it comes to art," he says. "Mike did the show for free for years before we even opened up a Patreon or you opened up a podcast." He adds: "You got to one, be good and two, you got to hustle because it's not even enough to be good"
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