The Importance of Optimism in Large Projects

I always sort of just assume that projects are going to be successful I think I don't really um uh and I always see myself as taking no risks. well we got a lot of things we want to work on but there's a certain rate we can work on these things and have them really be good so thankfully actually we didn't take the company public. Aaron asks did you consider just working at symbolic on maximum or the like instead of building your own tools oh well that's a complicated story so that takes us back a long way it takes us back to 1976.