Introduction

Andrew Keen: I wish that we could have done a better job of really getting people to see the importance of UBI by doing a lot of other things. It's like if you have different types of populations in different more rural areas, I think it would be compelling to different groups. That's where kind of what we're not doing. We need the data. From my perspective, we have the data. We know that it works. He says he learned most all of it from Scott Santons who came up with "UBI is not left or right, it's forward"