Jerry: There are many different ways that people process lots of different information and like figure out how to get the way of the landscape also kind of understanding the details. I think if we can have tools that allow us to limit the search space and then allow us to kind of see what is the underlying data that can be very powerful. How do you become aware of what's available in machine learning? Jerry: How do you make sense of it for someone who doesn't know anything about ML but wants to learn as much as he or she possibly can from a book, an experiment with some software they're working on at this point. And so yeah I guess I'm not sure this is quite