Sometimes, when you make a mistake or say the wrong thing, it sticks with you. I mean, it really sticks with you.

Sometimes, that can stick with you for days, weeks, or even years. Even just thinking about it can make your face turn red and your chest constricts due to all the anxiety, guilt, and general discomfort around the whole thing. These feelings can spark the desire to run away and avoid this discomfort at all costs. This is especially true with conversations centered around race: where white people with good intentions make mistakes, get defensive, and avoid the discomfort.

On today’s episode, we talk with Joy Fennel, who handles these difficult and uncomfortable conversations with absolute grace. Together, we talk about where we have unintentionally participated in “white feminism,” and left others behind. We debrief our mistakes, confront our own white privilege, and learn to grow from there.

Get ready to get uncomfortable with us and grow through this process.

Some Questions I Ask:

Do you often get stuck in uncomfortable conversations where you have to debate whether or not to confront racism? (18:34)
How would you like to have these conversations? (22:19)
Why aren’t black people receiving proper medical care? (33:29)
Did you face representation issues while growing up? (35:44)
What changes do you see in beauty trends? (37:48)
What are your goals for the future? (53:17)

In This Episode, You Will Learn:

Why America needs to enter into uncomfortable discussions around race. (7:05)
How Joy prioritizes giving grace to others within these uncomfortable conversations. (11:33)
How Joy determines whether or not to confront someone. (19:17)
Why the “revved-up mentality” is dangerous to progression and health. (22:40)
Why people distrust allies. (26:48)
How anger shifts into depression, and how this is dismissed through stereotypes. (30:00)
Why black people are their own advocates in healthcare. (34:04)
How Joy began her journey in the beauty industry. (38:15)
How impactful it is to see a situation from other points of view when it comes to race. (51:19)

Connect with Joy:

Joy’s Instagram

The Joy In Beauty Instagram

Cloutier Remix Profile

The Joy In Beauty Website

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