Few people are prepared to really think ethically and openly about what they eat, he says. "There's a whole lot of factors that just make it hard for people to make that fundamental change" Do you wish that human beings had never settled the New World or New Zealand? No, I don't wish that. But if someone asks the question, say, do we wish that human being had never settle the New World? And there would then be many more intelligent mammals alive in the New World today? He simply thinks that question is intractable.

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