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Cevallos: I think about this podcast as a perfect example of the same idea. It's in anvestment of an hour or two hours every so often with somebody, which is almost always really interesting and enjoyable. And who knows what, what that could create beyond just a simple, unowh simple conversation. That's a great way of framing how exposure to convexity or volatility or change good thing in your personal life. We can shift now to investing. How does that same idea you mention, you can do the same thing in a portfolio? So let's start to get into how that works. May we start by describing why you want exposure to b long volatility