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362: Getting The Help You Need, Building Brotherhood & FRD "Bands" with Alex, Nadir, Ben & Brian

Front Row Dads with Jon Vroman

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The Magic of Four

Nudir: "There's a reason that we picked four as the magic number for our bands" He says when you have these four people, it tends to create a good amount of energy. Nudir: It was wonderful to be able to do that with another group of men who are in similar situations in life. 'I think along the lines of what you said about goal setting'

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