The goal for everyone should be to get to the point in their own journey or their own habit where the veil gets unlifted. Do you think everyone needs some kind of intentionality when they're pursuing something? Can it truly just be like, I don't really know what I want and so I'm just going to explore this and see what happens? "I will say some of my biggest breakthroughs have been in moments where there wasn't an end goal in mind"

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