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232 - China Syndrome 11.18.22

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What if It Is Real?

"If you believe it's real, you will freak out. And you will feel more pain," he says. "But here's the thing about that. That pain is still contained. If it isn't, it's not pain anymore." 'I need to imagine I will be reconciled and forgiven,' she adds. "'Whatever I'm afraid of happening will not happen' - even if it's physical pain.' He concludes by saying: 'How can you let the clock run?'

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