Diggis: What do you think of the dangers of Europe tipping into recession, having more of a political impact? "It will have a political impact. Right now in Italy and all across Europe, the most important problem for grassroots voters is economy," he says. Diggis: We need to strengthen our military capabilities. We have to protect our competitiveness in economy. And we have to be able to play an important role in the geopolitical games of the world"

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