I think for me, a conversation is sort of maybe the greatest of these true, fun experiences. It's because it has, you really need to be in a playful mindset. We're probably already having more moments of fun if we think about it that way. I like to say they're floating in the air all around us and we just need to reach out and grab them. But when things feel so restricted, you know, I wrote this book, we started writing it in the first lockdown. So I'm writing about the importance of playfulness and connection in a time when it's like you can't see anybody.