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Truth & Lies with UFO Investigator Katie Paige

Paul Giamatti’s CHINWAG with Stephen Asma

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The Skeptic's Journey

Katie's grandfather was in the Navy and he had a sighting over Lake Como of this all Blanc shapecraft. Her father started dating this gentleman who owns this ranch out in Elbert County, Colorado. There was a rash of cattle mutilations on that ranch from 1975 to 1978. And it wasn't just cattle. It was horse and cow and sheep and even dog.

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