Ryan: I had two parents who Who didn't want to be married to each other. My dad was a pastor and my mom was not a pastor that's the easiest way for me to help people kind of grasp it. They both not only loved me but like gave me and showed me love and structure in a very different way. So I benefited from that for all the pain of divorce, which is why they didn't stay together. He says he learned how to Be okay with being by myself as an unaccompanied minor on flights between San Diego and Los Angeles when he was just eight years old. "I would fly get on an airplane in Carl's bad and I would fly up to LA

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