Hiring is going to be the hardest bit and it stays the hardest bit forever. It took me doing it, messing it up, doing it again, messed it up to kind of get to the point where we're like, okay, I would truly understand the ideas here and how they work. And especially if you want to find a human extract the value on you go,. That's not that's for us, not that interesting. We're interested in development, enjoying where you work, satisfaction, all of that kind of stuff.

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