Just sitting and watching a talk, if we're all being honest with ourselves, is not something that you'd prefer to do over doing something else. You only give indirect torture by publishing a talkl like attending a philosophy tak. The fact is, nobody remembers who said anything at a c and a, so there's no pressure. And i feel like maybe this is just the bat where in a bad message to young students. If you're ther i think there is good reason to attend talks. Am, when you're starting out, you do get to know the lay of the land and the field by it is still torturous sometimes but at least you get to know, you know