"I think whatever is on the other side as they call it, is so beautiful. Whatever's over there is so so beautiful and so much more real than this place that beings that are there," he says. "They don't seem to even see shame or they're right on the I think whatever it is." He adds: "As a parent, like if my kid somehow reaches through the veil to communicate with me after I'm dead, I'm not going to be a look at your fucking shitty shirt".

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